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party pass on a pledge, the vow never to raise taxes no how, no way, and today a way for a growing number of republicans to say, sorry, grover, it is over. that pledge we signed turns out it wasn't written in permanent ink. welcome, everyone, i am neil cavuto and don't look now but i think americans for americans for tax reform and the zealot could be pumped. grover norquist himself on what appears to be a revolt on the right, half dozen republican senators would have disown add pledge that isn't feasible now including oklahoma senator coburn, arizona's john mccain, south carolina's graham, idaho's crapo, tennessee's alexander, and georgia's sam bliss. it is not that they have all become antipledge, more like, well, antisweeping pledge. particularly the party of that pledge that called for resisting any move to end any tax break. to hear georgia's chambliss, too rigid, too inflexible, noting times have changed significantly, and i care more about my country than i do about a to-year-old pledge. if so, so what now? norquist in a second, to bob on republicans increasingly happy to ma
's the simultaneous convergence of tax increases and spending cuts designed to pressure lawmakers accepting other negotiated deficit reduction changes. it includes expiration of the bush era tax cuts that would effect everyone. expiration of the tax cut around for years can be called a tax increase. the nonpartisan budget office would bring in $1 trillion in ten years. on tap, 1.2 trillion in spending cuts for ten years. $100 billion in first year. half to defense programs. half to nondefense. cbo says going off the cliff would lead to a recession next year. we have fox team coverage tonight. ed henry is trying to read tea leaves on a day of mixed signals from all sides but we begin with mike emanuel on the possibility that g.o.p. lawmakers may put their oath of office above a promise to antitax increase organizer. good evening. >> good evening. the republican sources say they are offering a balanced approach of significant spending cuts and some revenue without boosting tax rates. >> we have been responsible as we remain firm on this point. no tax increases now for promised spending cuts that wo
with eric schoenberg, a patriotic millionaires, he's rich and he wants people to pay more tax. >> and did you inherit wealth. >> first of all, yes, i inherited wealth. >> you inherited. but also made money on my own. stuart: wait a minute, you inherited wealth. >> i did. stuart: what about the rest of us strivers, charles payne. all of us. >> all three of us. stuart: it was good. we'll have more of that interview coming up in our next hour when andrea tantaros and don peebles. you can see the whole thing on your facebook page. and grover norquist, says the republican will not cave on the fiscal cliff and that the g.o.p. will not agree to higher tax rate. i disagree with that. grover coming up after the break. so, too, is the opening bell. next, is this what republicans are up against? >> we cannot afford to extend the bush tax cuts for the wealthy. what i'm not going to do is to extend bush tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% that we can't afford. can your hearing aid do this? lyric can. lyric can. lyric can. lyric by phonak is the world's only 24/7, 100% init's tiny.aring device. but lyric's
american who pays taxes, has a mortgage or -- has to manage their own money, and that is every american. tonight, while shopping is a big story, along with the surprising amount americans are spending the bigger story is the fact that some very tough choices are coming, and it is the folks in washington who are going to decide for everyone. we have it all covered tonight, beginning with our chief white house correspondent, chuck todd, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, leaders in wall street and washington have been warning for weeks of a possibility of an economic downturn if they don't avert what we have been calling the fiscal cliff. and yet the consumers we have been talking about are not acting very worried. trying to capitalize on the strong holiday shopping season, the president warned that the economy will spiral downward if it is not addressed. >> i think it is a reason that retailers are so concerned. that congress has not yet extended the middle class tax cuts. >> reporter: the report also estimates that consumer spending could drop by $200 billion by 2013. 31st, there
, clinton, and the first george bush, moved away from a position no additional taxes. they all added revenues to deficit reduction. a significant amount of revenue. >> your colleague from georgia just this week said the following about that pledge not to raise any taxes. >> you know, that pledge i signed 20 years ago was valid then. it's valid now, but times have changed significantly.Ñi and i care more about this country than i do about a 20-year-old pledge. >> it is my view that the issue of taxes is the number one stumbling block to any kind of fiscal deal. that has to be resolved first before you can get to issues like sequestration. when you hear that from a colleague, does it say to you that there is room, and does the president do anything short of raising tax rates on the wealthy? is there anything short of that acceptable? >> well, you've got to raise additional revenues, including tax rates on the wealthy. >> those have to go up? >> they have to go up. there's ways of doing that. secondly, though, we've got to close some significant loopholes. for instance, the ones which
willingness to help the republicans the gate the pledge not to raise taxes by letting it expire and than any tax change to reduce taxes will be a tax cut, we will be glad to sign it. all of the super rich people who are now going to face the state tax on anything over $1 billion will be screening of their shoulders, the thing it. and rear not point to have $200 billion less in spending if after january 1 we sign a new tax bill. the fact that obama is administration is to make it sound like he is averting a catastrophe over the post 2013 -- it is an insult to people who know what is going on. host: if you think that -- do you think the president is not holding from one democratic beliefs? calving i really do not know. i just found out that ed rendell is supposedly a little type of democrat. he is one -- on one of these teams trying to figure out entitlements. this is a simple equation. we have about $800 billion more than necessary in spending. we have $800 billion more in spending that goes into the pockets of those who run unnecessary tests, insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies.
're going to delve into any type of serious reform on the tax or entitlement side or even a framework by christmas. oh, yeah. i guess i'm the tooth fairy. >> bill, so what do you do here with no fiscal cliff deal yet, with whispers of possibly the fed stimulating the economy even further, and with economic data pouring in almost daily that suggests we're still sputtering along? >> well, i tend to think 2013s going to be a great year. i'm not just looking at housing and employment. i'm looking at the architectural building index. there's stuff in the draw room. they're ready to bid out this winter and break ground in the spring. the republicans know that. the democrats know that. i would agree with rick. right now it's hard to imagine they can come up with something. we know they can. we know the democrats can say, okay, we'll give you something on means testing entitlements and we'll move the social security age up. republicans will say, we'll get rid of second mortgage deductions. they can do it. i don't think they really want to do it yet. so we just sit here sort of up 100, down 10
donations like those here in america are like those tax deductible and with the u.s. approaching a fiscal cliff, there are rumblings of big changes and some could impact charity. the and here is the national correspondent tim angle. >> thanksgiving, a time to relish one's blessings and help the less fortunate. >> in the scramble to avoid the fiscal cliff, both the president's plan to raise taxes on the wealthy and the republican willingness for revenues could end up hurting charities and rely on the kindness of people with money. >> high income people tend to give very generous gifts. they may give a million dollar contribution to a capital campaign of a local hospital or a local art museum and a small number of donors at the high end that account for really big chunk of the charitable giving in this country and those are the folks that we'd be most impacted by this tax policy change. >> in fact, united way gives 15% of total donations, 500 million dollars a year, from those who give $10,000 or more. so, charities worry that any kind of tax increase on the wealthy could cut into their don
and a shoed and cunning tax texas oil man. he played bad boy jr ewing. tributes are prouring in by hagman. and they join us now with a look back at the larger than life tv personality. dom nick. >> hey, uma. it is it a sad loss for the tain tain hagman claimed to be the most famous actor in the world and it was a portrayal of jr ewing that rocketed both him and the soap opi ra to fame. he died due to compliitations with cancer. he was 81 with him in his final moments was his relatives and long-time colleague and friend linda grey. and in a statement, she said he brought joy to everybody he knew and creative and jennerous and talented and i will miss him enormously she said. hagman was captain tony nelson on i dream of jenny. and he took serious roles including appearances. and he was in primary colors and repeated ratings got. and working on the latest for tnt in january. and no immediate comments from warner or tnt on how the series would deal with the loss. he leaves behind a wife of 60 years. >> and of course, he leaves behind two children as well. >> and this is it a major television
me smile until the numbers come out. and then you will get taxed to kingdom come. it will not even help the deficit. warren buffett can help them out. lori rothman and melissa francis with more coming up. dagen: the market is up, that is good. good afternoon read >> pushing for middle-class tax cuts without any spending concessio concessions, president obama to meet with business leaders on the fiscal cliff after speaking just last hour. we'll ask lou dobbs that he thinks ceos will help to make deals happen. >> now washington is looking at the one sacred mortgage deduction, maybe get rid of it to help heal the budget crisis. >> charlie gasparino on the future of the firm. time for stocks as we do every 15 minutes, before the new york stock exchange, nicole petallides on the floor. a deal is possible by christmas. >> hoping to get some positive comments from john boehner. he is optimistic. a nice little boost. from negative to positive to the session highs, no 50 points away from dow 13,000 once again. the dow once again up 73 points. you have a lot of winners. the banking index is
with top white house officials begging for their taxes to go up. one of them is here to explain it to me. even when they say it is not, it is always about "money." ♪ all right. to our top story, a possible bailout for fema, the federal emergency management agency says it only has $850 million left in the bank. and they expect to burn through that by the end of this month. meanwhile, we are looking at losses of 6-$12 billion. this all coming as president obama visits damage here in new york to see the recovery efforts. with me now, david williams, president of the taxpayer protection alliance. thank you for coming and michele what do you make of all this? what happens if they run out of money? >> well, don't worry. people will be helped. what will happen is congress will step in to make sure that they get money. then what happens after that, what we really don't know, how they pay that money back to the federal government because it is only borrowing the money. that is what they did to borrow it up to 20 billion, both through 18 billion of that. they have about 3 billion last. but that
the politics are currently after the election. economists usually determine policy prior to tax rates. host: we are host: we are running out of time to give final thoughts as we conclude. what do you think is next on this debate? guest: we are weeks away from a deadline. an important one. where not only our tax policy is going to change but significant spending cuts are slated to take effect as well. i'm actually a little bit more concerned today than i was a day or two ago. in the sense at the moment policymakers are moving in opposite directions. in part that's the ways of washington and i think we'll see a few collapses before we ultimately get together somewhere in the days before christmas on a compromise. we have been talking about marginal tax rates, which i think are a key part not only of the budget question, but a key part of the broader economic question in terms of economic growth. and i'm hopeful that any solution that comes together is going to think a lot about economic growth and not just budgets. host: ethan? guest: i think i may be a little more hopeful than alex is. i think t
to give in on tax changes in order to get some sort of a deal done. kelly wright joins us with more on what it means for the negotiation. we could be looking at possible tax hikes, isn't that right? >>> oo the government is on automatic pilot. that is five weeks away. for congress there is much work to be done and more compromise to be made in order to avoid the fiscal cliff. it will require give and take negotiations particularly on raising taxes but republican law americas who pledged to not vote for anything with a tax increase now appear ready to relinquish that pledge in order to avoid the looming fiscal crisis. >> when you are $16 trillion in debt the only pledge we should be making to each other is to avoid the grief and republicans should put revenue on the table. >> so everything is on the table and campaign raising taxes on the wealthy is relying on treasury secretary tim geithner. his team will works on issues like medicare even social security. they hoping to avoid a repeat over raising the debt ceiling in 2011. they hope the geithner team can reach an agreement with all
are holding most of the trump cards. if nothing is done, remember we go back to the clinton tax rates of the 1990s which were not all that bad. in fact, the economy did quite well under those tax rates. if nothing is done, basically the republicans lose. and if the republicans try to make a case that they are not going to vote for an extension of middle class tax cuts unless the rich also get a tax cut that, puts the republicans in the position of showing america that they are going to hold the middle class hostage and they are shields for the very rich. that kind of a demonstration is not going to be good for the g.o.p. so the democrats are holding a lot of the cards. the question is will the democrats actually hold firm. >> eliot: i think that's exactly right. this will be an easy test of will. should be an easy test of will for the president. as you have pointed out january 1 is the witching hour. the republicans lose more because their negotiating position is significantly weaker. one of the things that -- the
the of consumers but will the possibility of higher tax slow them down? we'll talk with matthew shay of the national retail federation and john sweeney of fidelity investments. plus the holiday is over and the white house and congressional leaders try to make a deal. we'll ask our sunday panel if negotiators can reach a compromise to avoid the fiscal cliff. and a thanksgiving tradition, our power player of the week has me dancing with turkeys. all, right now, on fox news sunday. ♪ >> chris: and, hello again, from fox news in washington. on this holiday weekend, we are watching several major foreign policy developments from egypt, to gaza. to the continuing controversy over the benghazi attacks. here to talk about it all is senator john mccain, and, senator, welcome back to fox news sunday. >> thank you, chris, dancing with turkeys? >> chris: you have to wait until the end of the show to see. >> i thought we were doing that now! >> chris: president mohamed morsi, gave himself almost unchecked powers and sent thousands into the streets, the people who have been helping to topple hosn
more important for these small businesses are the tax hikes and the tax increases that they are facing come the end of the year. a tax increase for top net income earners, from 35 to 39.6% in 2013. for all intents and purposes that involves small business owners? >> it's a lot of them. there is a fight going on. the left saying it will not affect small business too much. the right is saying it will. there is a lot of politics going on. my only question is how taking money out of anybody to put into washington, d.c. which is has been very ineffective with our capital is going to help -- i don't get it. somebody runs a small business and make a few hundred thousand a year to tell them you are going to pay $15-20,000 a year plus obamacare, i on don't think that is good news. i wish they had a better idea. elections have consequences. i gather taxes are going up. >> heather: according to ernest & young they are projecting that that tax rate will kill 710,000 small business jobs. people, individuals support businesses help that? >> yes, it's going to help. look, there is a reality. dollars
at this point. >> but when you look at those, they all have some come by neigh of spending cuts and tax increases. the idea is that over a period of time, you basically put the country in a better path, the government in a better path to spending and taxation. what you don't want is the fiscal cliff because that was designed to be something that nobody liked. and the reason is, yes, you've reduced the deficit from about 7% of gdp down to about 4% of gdp, so you move in the right direction really dramatically, but you do it in a way that nobody was happy with exactly where those cuts come from and exactly how the taxes increase. >> with what you're seeing, and we never know, it's almost like a mating dance where you've got the male and a feel of some species -- >> it's an ugly one. >> looks like they're never going to do it. they get closer and closer. >> but there is a lot of -- they back off and they might even look like they're fighting. but do they eventually, you know, do it? >> well, i think certainly everybody hopes so. because it would be better than if they don't. >> that didn't
is voicing support for tax hikes for americans just like him. >> i think it would have a great effect in terms of the morale of the middle class who have seen themselves paying high payroll taxes, income taxes and then watched guys like me end up paying a rate that's below that, you know, paid by the people in my office. >> joining me now is wisconsin's republican senator ron johnson. senator, it's great to have you with us this morning. and as we talk about what's taking place in washington, d.c. right now, the million dollar question is all concerns around senators lindsey graham, saxby chambliss, congressman peter king among other republicans who said they'd be willing to break away from grover norquist's anti-tax pledge. will you say if you're willing to break that pledge in order to save the country from the fiscal cliff. >> hello, thomas. and first of all, i signed that pledge two years ago, and the reason i signed it is because i think increasing tax rates, increasing the amount of money that the federal government takes away from job creators is going to harm economic growth a
income tax. and because they don't pay their a bunch of takers. you in this room, you're the makers, you're being victimized by the takers and there is nothing i can do about those takers so forget about it. i think it was a disaster. and a lot of the people in that 47% are in fact the base of the republican party. >> david. >> this is not because we're having a blue hand love in. if the republican party were to listen to half of what steve said in his opening comments they would rehabilitate themselves quickly. i think there is going to be a civil war between the view of people like steve and the view of some on the hard right. and i thought up here i'm not going to say a challenging thing about governor romney or pour salt in any wounds. but a few hours ago governor romney did a conference call to thank some of his donors. and he said that the reason he lost was that the president had given gifts, his word gifts to young people in the form of student loans and student loan repayment process. gifts to the latino policy by saying dream act kids would not be deported over the coming years
is that revenue going to come from? >> increasing tax rates is going to harm economic growth. >> warren buffett was out this morning talking about tacking the wealthy. >> time to make the tax rates more progressive. >> that's just silly. >> grover norquist, he wanted ground government in the bathtub. i hope he slips in there with it. >> medicaid, social security. >> this is not part of the conversation. we're not going to raid social security. just another fight in washington. >> there's going to be blood and hair and eyeballs all over the floor. >> i'm more positive than most. >> if not, we go off the supposed cliff. >> the fiscal cliff or slope. the bump of various height. >>> thelma and louise might need to make room in the car for the president of the united states. at the white house today, senior obama administration officials met with liberal leaders and union officials. "the washington post" reports that one told him after the meeting, quote, would the white house go off the cliff if it's between that and compromising their core principles? i was left with the impression that they would
sales tax. now a move to close the loopholes that are costing states millions. plus at least when people shop online this doesn't happen. [oh] >> shepard: tonight, the brawl at the mall. a jury cleared casey anthony of murdering her little girl. >> we, the jury, find the defendant not guilty. >> shepard: now some potentially explosive evidence about a computer search somebody did on the day little caylee disappeared. and this was no ordinary parade can a gety. >> snn colon and then a number. >> shepard: shredded police documents apparently reigning down on the thanksgiving day crowd. >> i didn't know what to make of all of this information. >> tonight, investigation and police respond. but first from fox this monday night, some republicans are now saying they are willing to break their no tax hikes pledge to keep us all from going right over the fiscal cliff at the end of the year. it's pretty new and that's when pretty much everybody's taxes will go up if congress and the president can't cut a deal. g.o.p. leaders insist they still do not want to raise tax rates. instead, they say they
opinion, can they reach a deal on these taxes that does not require all of the requirements of business to go up? dagen: do think that happened, because again, there are so many taxes that we need to worry about, the lawmakers never fixed it for 2012. if they do not fix that, it will hit 33 million americans. the payroll tax cut. will that go away, because, again, it was temporary ones, temporary twice and it will still be a higher tax. >> im so glad you brought up the amt. nobody has really been focusing on this. that would be bigger than even extending the bush tax cuts. you are talking about $2 trillion in additional taxes on americans over the next decade if we do not fix this thing. of course, it is because they have not indexed this for inflation. it reverts to the level it was in 1993 where the level would only be about $45,000. think about this. when you mention those 30 million americans, those are rich people. those are people earning 100-150,000 dollars. they will let the payroll tax rise back to where it was before they temporarily suspended it. dagen: do you think, though,
sure raising taxes on the wealthy is part of the deal. politico is calling them cliff jumpers. l good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> let me play a couple of clips to start out about the pledge. >> i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> a pledge you sign 20 years ago, 18 years ago, is for that congress. if i were in congress in 1841 i would have supported declaration of war against japan. i won't attack japan today. the world changed and the economic situation is different. >> i am not oblg gate on the pledge. i was just elected. the only thing i am honoring is the oath that i take when i serve when i am sworn in in january. >> chambliss already made a similar statement last week. the question is is this a real softening of positions? does it give them room to make deal. >> two things. first, let's look at the real room being created. so far i haven't heard anyone say i am willing to raise marginal tax rates as part of a deal. they're arguing with the head of the antitax coalition about whet
popular mortgage deduction. and while republicans have been more open to revenue, that does not mean tax rate increases. many democrats insist that tax rates for the wealthiest americans absolutely have to go up. but they don't necessarily agree on how much they should rise. let me bring in usa today's washington bureau chief, susan page, and ryan grim. good morning to both of you. >> hey, good morning. >> good morning. >> we've laid out some of the basics there and warren buffett was out this morning talking about taxing the wealthy. he says there should be a minimum tax on millionaires. take a listen. >> i think it would have a great effect in terms of the morale of the middle class who have seen themselves paying high payroll taxes, income taxes, and then they've watched guys like me end up paying a rate that's below that, you know, paid by the people in my office. >> you know, he was the one that in a way started all this, susan, because he talked about he shouldn't pay a lower tax rate than his secretary. now he's saying that taxes should rise, maybe for people making over $500,000
the battle cry for lower taxes? where are they? we'lwe will ask one of the couns top tea party leaders. even when they say it is not, it is always about "money." all right, first let's take a look at the market headlines. modest gains in the last day of trading before the thanksgiving holiday. citigroup announced it will be closing half of all their branches in greece. the banking giant says a security measures are hurting their business. a feral bankruptcy judge has officially approved hostess brand plans to wind down. the ruling spells certain and to the hostess bakery. the twinkie will come back. ending the vlence for now. even though it intensified when word of the troops was first announced. earlier today terrorist blew up a bus in tel aviv injuring 30 people. tensions boiling over. if the cease-fi does not hold and israel goes to war, the global impact will be felt here in the u.s. joining me now in a fox business exclusive is senior advisor to the mayor, thank you for being with us. i want to get right to it. a cease-fire is good news but what is your take on it? >> is quite interesti
)s and other places. so supply-side tax reduction certainly counts. .. about the last time around. >> your tax pledges between the representative. if there is a net increase would you say that is in violation of the pledge and are you worried about the words that you are hearing from speaker boehner? is he talking about a net tax increase or are we hearing that rahm? >> he's in favor of revenues that come from growth and needs to see serious spending restraint. i am in favor of revenues to come from economic growth. one of the numbers that doesn't get tossed around is cbo. the cbo says if you grew at 4% a year -- congressional budget office -- they do static modeling. they do a whole bunch of things that i think understate the case for how important growth is or how you get growth, but if you grow 4% a year, reagan numbers instead of 2% a year, france, or obama's high point -- you do that for a decade, to present additional growth, 4% a year, not to present, the federal government lets $5 trillion more than it would have because more people are working. at this point, from the bottom of the re
said they will back down on taxes as long as there is one condition. >> steve: this time the white house has a better idea. wait until you hear who they are bringing back to lead the negotiations. yimpt powerball jackpot. $425 million . if you think you are more likely to get struck by lightning than win it big. the guy who won eight times who has the secret. >> steve: does he have the numbers. >> brian: "fox and friends" begins now. >> steve: hi, folks, live from studio e. i am sick of turkey. and i am sick of gravy. we had it five-days. >> gretchen: i know, i have a big huge bird sitting in my refrigerator and attempt to make soup out of it later today. >> brian: so it is not alive. >> gretchen: it didn't gobble. >> brian: i went to the movies and i have another movie. >> gretchen: i saw santa claus over the weekend. >> brian: ian loves it. i will tell you in a while. >> gretchen: no. >> brian: steve, saw one of my recommendations on saturday and you feel. >> steve: i am stopping to listen wu. >> gretchen: can you tell us now. >> steve: some of his movies i like a lot. >> gretche
repeated their openness to being willing to raise taxes, which is something that is violated republican orthodoxy. here is jay carney just a few minutes ago in reaction to those comments. >> some of the comments you mentioned are welcome. and they represent what we hope is a difference in tone and approach to these problems and a recognition that a balanced approach to deficit reduction is the right approach. it's the one most beneficial for our economy. >> reporter: the president's trying to take advantage of that different tone. he talked to speaker boehner over the weekend by telephone. and today you've had two business leaders, john engler, tom donahue, in to meet with senior white house officials. they're trying to keep this going. aides on capitol hill tell me no substantive progress in negotiations just yet. they're just now getting back to work after thanksgiving. >> how does that make you feel about the market? does it make you feel like they have more kum-bi-ya going on in washington, d.c.? does it make you more willing to invest? >> i'll tell you what. i saw spielberg's "linc
class taxes low, but will congress go along with higher taxes for the rich? plus, a long secret u.s. plan, get this, to explode an atomic bomb on the moon. what were they thinking? i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> today we may be at the tipping point for one of the most important decisions president obama needs to make as he begins his second term. on capitol hill republicans including moderate republicans are sending the president a clear warning, don't nominate susan rice to replace hillary clinton as secretary of state. rice is the current u.s. ambassador to the united nations. she spent a second day meeting with senators trying to explain some of her inaccurate comments she made after the september 11th terrorist attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. cnn's senior congressional correspondent dana bash is joining us now from capitol hill with the very latest. what happened today, dana? >> reporter: wolf, it was one thing for susan rice to be criticized harshly yesterday by the three republicans she met with because they had been among her harshest
of positive talk following the election. even bill kristol talking about let's feel free to raise taxes if it's part of a bigger deal. a lot of elections don't have consequences, midterm elections. this was supposed to be a status quo election. but something happened here. i think the fever is starting to break. >> absolutely. you're going to see it, i think, on immigration reform, and i think you're going to see it on spending and taxation. and you don't have to effect or change basic tax rates. as you know, there's all sorts of things you can do on so-called tax expenditure dealing with home mortgage deductions, dealing with state and local taxes. also there's things obviously on the spending side, entitlements and domestic spending, this isn't that hard. this is, if you will, a mini-package. this isn't necessarily on the scale of simpson-bowles. it doesn't need to be. this ought to be doable. >> john heilemann, obviously both sides have to give. everyone's been saying that. there needs to be room for compromise, figure out how to get there. how does a deal look? is there a possibility of a
wants to raise taxes on the wealthy for instance. is that going to solve the problem, get rid of the bush tax cuts? >> that is not going to solve the problem because we have to remember first of all, there is no such thing as a tax increase that affects only the wealthy. ernst & young predicted we'll lose 700,000 jobs even if we raise taxes only on top two rate brackets. 700,000 jobs. those are not ceo jobs. those are not top one percenters. those are people living paycheck to paycheck. bottom line we can't go back to the american people again and again expect to call that a fair deal when we continue to demand more money of them but we're not willing to change the way we spend money in washington. jon: senator mike lee is a republican of utah. some sobering thoughts there, senator. thanks for sharing them. >> thank you. jenna: we have some brand new developments in the political turmoil raging in egypt today as the country's two highest appeals courts suspend work to protest president morsi's latest move. now that latest move is his decision as president to make anything that
the idea that some taxes will go up on the high end and the middle class won't see much of a tax increase. are we justified? >> i think the typical consumer is not like you and me and the other guests there. the typical consumer makes about $60,000 a year for their family. they're not getting tax dividends so they're not freaked up about those going up. they're concerned about their paychecks and paychecks have been more steady for the first time in several years, wages have gone up a little bit, and the biggest asset people own is a house. it's not just a volume of sales rising and construction but home values. and so with every passing week, a certain number of people who are under water on their mortgages are now in positive territory. and that contributes to what we call the wealth effect, people feeling more confident, they're more likely to spend. it's pro-cyclical. when things are going in the right direction, it forces to propel them further in the right direction. >> stephen, you feel very strongly tax rates should go down and not up. these pro-cyclical things, the idea that the
is rich's the $230,000 for a tough pill to swallow for new tax hikes. so now it will buy even make dead-end. what does lou dobbs think? melissa: corporate america racing to get ahead of the cliff with wall street funds to help your wallet. melissa: time for stocks ahead to the floor of the new york stock exchange with nicole petallides confidence hitting the post recession peak but traders are not buying it? >> >> of its numbers result of the market moved higher the dow moving into the green but now was sells off continuing the trend. we're doing much of the same we're under pressure with dow jones industrial average but also of the nasdaq has some of perot's. the confidence numbers of the highest levels since february 2008 also case-schiller shows the total order for durable goods is unchanged. we have a deal on wall street and some upgrades so there are bits and pieces and many are rushing to get ahead of the fiscal cliff. lori: with the potential tax increase with dividends companies to try to get a job and are paying dividends early before jittery first. joined the is seen him from
passed two-and-a-half years ago, and it starts to unfold this january with new taxes. then insurance exchanges up and ready in october 2013. analysts, however, say the federal government is struggling in part because of the way the bill was thrown together. >> it was put together by a bunch of special interests, and that's why you get this rube goldberg contraption, we're having all these problems. >> reporter: now, just before thanksgiving the administration finally laid out what is called essential benefits which insurance companies need to structure and price their health care plans. but the administration is pressing its luck, because insurance companies usually need much more time than they have now. >> well, it typically takes anywhere from a year to a year and a half for an insurance company to develop new policies, get them approved by regulators and develop all the materials needed to sell them to consumers. >> reporter: requirements of the law still have not been completed. businesses of a certain size, for instance, have to have what is called adequate coverage in order to
enough on the spending side. there seems to be movement toward the idea that some people's taxes will go up at the high end. middle class won't see much of a tax increase. why the optimism? are we justified? >> well, i think the typical consumer is not like you and me and our other guests here. the typical median income is $60,000 a year for a family. they're not getting a lot of money from capital gains and dividends. they're not freaked out at the prospect of those going up. they're concerned about what is in their paycheck. paychecks are morsteady than they had been any time the last few years. wages are going up a little bit. the biggest asset that anybody owns is a house. we finally seem -- it's not just the value of sales rising and construction but home values. and so with every passing week, you know, certain number of people underwater on their mortgages are now in positive territory. and that contributes to what we call the wealth infeceffect. when things are going in the right direction, that forces to propel them further. >> stephen, again, you feel very rongly that tax rates
't act, if the president doesn't act, in unison, your taxes are going up come january 1st to help raise revenue to pay down the national debt. stay with me here for a moment because we'll show you exactly, you know, how much your taxes will be rising. but here's the thing. it doesn't have to happen, this predetermined jump in income taxes and the new parlor game on capitol hill is to pick the next republican, follow me here who is willing to break a no tax pledge made to a very powerful lobbyist, in order to cut a deal with the democrats to focus the pain of new taxes on the wealthy. see this picture? see these three guys. here is yet another republican speaking just this morning. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. i made tennesseans aware i was just elected that the only thing i'm honoring is the oath that i take when i serve when i'm sworn in this january. >> so republican senator bob corker is saying his oath of office trumps any no tax pledge made to washington lobbyist grover nor quist. republican saxby chambliss says he cares more about america and the fiscal mess we're in than h
and his no tax hike pledge. >>> plus, rebellion continues in egypt. a meth lab on wheels? cheerleaders for a cause. and the biggest power ball jackpot ever. >> this is "early today" for monday, november 26th, 2012. >> good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. say what you will about the state of the economy, but americans didn't hold back on what turned out to be a record-breaking holiday weekend for retailers. and it's not over yet. cyber monday is officially in full swing and experts predict today will be the biggest online shopping day of the year to the tune of $1.5 billion. nbc's kristen dahlgren has more. >> reporter: from the moment doors opened thursday, before the thanksgiving dishes were even done, almost a quarter billion shoppers will have been online or in stores. >> i just prepare, put my speakers on and go for it. >> reporter: shopping started earlier than ever, and in spite of the employee protests, the early opening paid off. according to the national retail federation, more than 35 million shopped on thanksgiving, six million more than last year. black fri
to get the majority of a majority on tax issues. he's not going to get a majority of majority on debt raising. >> much harder on the debt ceiling than taxes. >> that's what i'm saying. i refuse to vote to raise a debt ceiling when they were trying to raise it to $5 trillion. it's something you don't do unless you get a lot of cuts on the other side. >> and it's not a game. because if you don't raise it, we saw what happened last time, you can get your debt downgraded and has real economic consequenc consequences. and that's why when people think about the fiscal cliff, we all assume that sane minds will prevail and they'll come up with some deal. there's no guarantee that sane minds will prevail. and recent history would suggest that sanity almost never prevails in washington. so you can assume it's going to be more difficult than we think. you can assume that the bush tax cuts might all go away for a short period of time. and you cannot assume they just raise the debt limit. you cannot make that assumption. >> are the president's men and women -- are they under -- are they making the
and tax hikes go into effect at the end of the year. the president wants tax breaks for 98% of americans and 97% of small businesses, while raising taxes on the wealthy. most republicans remain against tax hikes and want to cut spending on social programs such as medicare and social security. however, the latest tone out of washington is encouraging. "as thomas jefferson said, and this is a quote, 'we should not put off tomorrow what we can do today.'" "the only balanced approach is one that includes real and lasting reforms, so republicans have stepped out of our comfort zone." in the latest manueverings, the obama administration points out the typical american household will pay $2,200 in additional taxes next year, which could hurt consumer spending by $200 billion in 2013 and threaten christmas shopping this season. house speaker john boehner and a few other key republicans appear willing to consider tax hikes. billionaire warren buffett chimes in that tax hikes won't stop the wealthy from investing. in our cover story, the woman who led the securities and exchange commission after t
washington gridlock. no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. why use temporary treatments when you can prevent the acid that's causing it with prevacid24hr. with one pill prevacid24hr works at the source to prevent the acid that causes frequent heartburn all day and all night. and with new prevacid24hr perks, you can earn rewards from dinner deals to music downloads for purchasing prevacid24hr. prevent acid all day and all night for 24 hours with prevacid24hr. >>> how do you say a person like susan rice is not qualified? you may not like her. i you may not like the administration. but don't say she's not qualified. she is the most qualified person that i'm sure any of you know, that the senators know. it is a shame that anytime
worth of automatic spending cuts and bush tax rates that expire the same second, at stroke of midnight january 1, 2013. with the biggest names in the business community, in the political community, we tried, again and again, to come close to the crisis that could have been avoided at 39 days out remains a chasm. hear their woes, their worries, about being on the brink. fiscal cliff? or fiscal free for all? we are staring at this abyss. no one is even touching it. >> what is amazing to me this is the most predictable financial crisis ever in the history of this country. i suspect we are thought going to anticipate a recession, you will see a recession. >> we should be very careful not to go over the cliff because we will have a negative affect on this economy and on employment. >>neil: an idea of how much is at stake and who pays for this, i am telling you at this rate, everyone will pay. every single american family will pay. >> this has implications for every american family, 90 percent of families in america will pay higher taxes, and a reduction in income of $3,500 per american fami
up 800 billion in new revenue and overhaul the tax system and changes to medicare and that's why the republicans are asking the democrats to come in and explain your deal. this plan was hatched in 2010 and everyone walked away from it and now they call bowles back up? it is late. this is what the american people are upset about. nothing gets done. >> steve: we are a month from the cliff. >> gretchen: we could have avoided the cliff if they used the plan as a starting point. americans are upset nothing gets done. >> brian: norquist is the bad guy. you should walk away from grover norquest. he said you have enough money on capitol hill and stop asking us . he's been a watch dog on our money so whether you are democrat or republican you should salute him. he warned you in the past that people who walked away from the no new taxes paid a price. >> remember the gang of 6. three of the people that you mentioned spent eight months in the room with democrats, pretending to negotiate tax increases for entitlement reform . after a while coburn had to admit they were offered nothing but tax
. >>> but also this half hour, higher taxes on the table as the country edges closer to that fiscal cliff at the end of the year. some republican lawmakers are rethinking their promise not to raise the taxes. >>> and then here's a tax problem worth having, the tax bill on a record $425 million powerball jackpot that's up for grabs wednesday night. people across the country are dreaming. >> and we all know the chances are beyond slim. i think, the money you are putting down is for the fantasy. just that moment, you go, "man if i won this, wouldn't that be great." you're buying that moment of escape. not buying a real shot. >> you're very familiar with fantasizing, right? >> oh, yeah. >> money. winning. >> helps you get through the day. >>> and later they're back. 'tis the season for my favorite family, the griswolds, what got them together for 30 seconds after 23 years. can't believe it's been that long. details on what they're doing coming up in "the skinny." if you do not like national lampoon's "christmas vacation." you have no soul. funniest holiday movie ever. love the griswolds. >> c
their own day of thanks. >> they can't stand it. this is one we made good without them. they tried to tax us without representation. >> i think july 4th is probably worse. >> either way, they hate both of those holidays. >> ross, do you hate thanksgiving? >> no, i don't hate thanksgiving. 400 years ago, they gave thanks for the pilgrim fathers to leave, i think. >> there you go. they didn't want us anyway. >> now look what happened. >> oh. he's 007. >> good luck with the turkey, by the way. >> thank you, ross. we appreciate it. have a great day or so. we'll see you back here on friday. >> they probably don't like any of our holidays. >> christmas. >> very jealous. >> they have places in london with a good thanksgiving. i remember when i lived in london, ross could participate in this. >> that was big of him. i was going to ask him about thanksgiving, but he extended a happy thanksgiving. >> i could tell it was tinged with a little resentment. >> not from ross. >> still to come on squawk, we have a well-known name to our viewers. jim chanos, he'll be joining us in just a few minutes. >>> befo
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